How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

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ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Besides the religion, what's the difference between Arabs and Jews, if they are the same people from the same part of the Middle East?

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Why do people have polyamorous relationships?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

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The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

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You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

How does an experienced gay/bi guy handle a bi-courius guy on his first time?

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Kabir (a weaver)

When a black man and a white woman have a child, does the child become white? If a white man and a black woman have a child, does the child become black?

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

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I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

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I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

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ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

then who is there to know what happens without?

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

CONCLUSION:

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

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Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

NOW…

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Sain (a barber)

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

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Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Now here in this verse

I am like a fish out of water,

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…